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Re: The Market Thread.

@KKRIVEIt's still the same thread I've just shifted the contents from Offical Announcements to General Discusions so it's all in one place and so I could unlock it so the conversation could continue.

 

The only thing that hasn't moved is the announcement itself which is still where it was everything else from that thread is now here.

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Re: The Market Thread.

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Re: The Market Thread.

It's okay I hadn't made it obvious.

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Re: The Market Thread.

Since I pre-ordered the Mythirll editon I will get a gold and a mythrill war chest at the start of the game. I would like to know if I can save the chests and open them when I'm at a higher level, or if I have to open them right away?

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Re: The Market Thread.

I've read the thread.  I've seen the whole "you don't have to do it if you don't want to".  I've heard it before, it doesn't work.

Instead I'll "not spend my money on the game if I don't want to" and skip it.

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Re: The Market Thread.

The game is single player focus mostly, buying these Chest won't really give you a huge advantage like it would be in Multiplayer games like in Injustice 2 where you can spend real money to get high level gears or even level up your Characters


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If you were to ask me personally about these kind of real world money boosters I would honestly say I thought they were a bad thing, there is a way the game is supposed to be played in terms of gaining levels and hunting the best gear and to use real money to bypass that is to my mind completely ruining the experience of the game so I know for a fact I will only use it right at the end to spend whatever currency I have gained because otherwise it goes to waste, which is something I hate by the way having lots of remaining stuff to spend and nothing left to spend it on so in that sense I like these chests for that at least.

 

But and this is the key point I'm trying to make is that I know I am not the only person who is going to play the game and other people may not want to spend hours getting everything and see these boosters as a way to improve their enjoyment, can I argue with that, no. Would them using these boosters in any way hurt me or my gaming experience, again no, so while as I said above I don't like them I can't really argue against them if they are helping other people enjoy the game as that should be the goal getting the most enjoyment out of the game for everyone.

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@Stranger Yeah, I just dont see why one have to be so negative against something that dont affect them in any way. I know I will use some because I wont have the time to play much because Im getting a baby in about two weeks. If people dont want to buy the game solely because of microtransactions, its a LOT of game they wont be able to try just because they are (in my opinion) pig-headet about it. It dont affect the game. It dont affect the player. Its just a tool for those who chose to use it. Im getting a bit irritated since they are negative of a feature they are not forced to even look at.

 

I loved to grind after the right captain in SoM, but I cannot do that this time because I cant play as much. If you dont want to buy it because of MTs, then dont. But stop complaining about it, its there, it wont go away because you dont like it. Why even be in the forum if you hate it so much. Its not making sense. Btw, that comment is not directed at you, Stranger. Its in general. 

 

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Re: The Market Thread.


Kaseladen wrote:

I've read the thread.  I've seen the whole "you don't have to do it if you don't want to".  I've heard it before, it doesn't work.

Instead I'll "not spend my money on the game if I don't want to" and skip it.


Did you come to the forum solely to say you wont buy it because you dont approve of MTs? Its so many games that has it. Like Dead Space 3, which was a awesome game. 

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benelli86 wrote:

Since I pre-ordered the Mythirll editon I will get a gold and a mythrill war chest at the start of the game. I would like to know if I can save the chests and open them when I'm at a higher level, or if I have to open them right away?


You can wait if you want to. Thats what Im going to do.

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That's not entirely true, is it? Yes, they can get a silver warchest with mirian, but they won't be able to get a gold, or mythrill warchest without paying for gold. I know that you can get gold from participating in community challenges, but not everyone will do so. You won't get the same things from a silver warchest as you will get from a gold, or mythrill chest. You will never be able to get a legendary order without buying gold to get a mythrill warchest. Therefore, they are indeed affected by the implementation of microtransactions.

 

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Re: The Market Thread.

Yeah, I don't like having the pay system in here, though I do like the new options brought up in the market/ garrison (non gold related).

 

Monolith has said the GOLD system is for people who want to play the game faster, but it's true, this sytem will also drain wallets of people who have poor self control when it comes to microtransactions, and makes the game feel cheaper, like a facebook game or a casino slot machine, than the rad AAA Lord of the Rings game it shoud be.

 

This is not a good idea, nor is a good fad in gaming. There are better options. I imagine this feature will lose the game several points in every review to come out on it, which is a shame.

 

 

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Re: The Market Thread.

Instead of Gold Markert we should refer to this as

 

the "Pay for cheats and cheapening gameplay with your children's college fund" system.

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Re: The Market Thread.

Actually just registered this account just to post to this.

 

I was excited for this game, I liked the previous one and this looked like it was going to be even better. But microtransactions in a not Free To Play game? No. Microtransactions in a Single Player game? No. I don't have a problem with the concept of DLC, of microtransactions in a FTP game (I've spent more money on Dota that I care to think about) but you want me to buy this game, and then are going to try and sell me more of it? I have 0 belief in you not employing psychological pressures to get me to give you more money, slow repetitive grinding, etc.

 

TLDR: I was going to buy this but you've added microtransactions. Until you make the game free, or remove the microtransactions I'm not picking it up. I will encourage everyone I know and talk to to do the same.

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Re: The Market Thread.

Also, to anyone on here complainging about complainers: The point of the forum is to have a community 'forum' where everyone is allowed to voice their opinions. In the case of this forum, it is particularly important because members of Monolith actually read *some* of these posts, and I believe, our input can actually make an impact, ESPECIALLY when a feature is seen as a poor decision (or a great one) by the majority of gamers participating in the forum. Maybe not for this game, since it's pretty much done, but maybe on future games, in some way.

 

Second point, yeah, the cheat box feature can be helpful for people who want to play the game but don't have the time to grind, BUT THOSE FEATURES CAN BE PRESENT WITHOUT NEEDING TO BUY THEM. Also, while this feature sucks, I don't think it merrits not picking up the game at all, since there is so much to play outside of the flawed market system. 

 

Also, if you don't like reading people voice contradictory opinions to your own, maybe you are better off participating in the "suck Monolith's **bleep** forum", at the other end of the internet.

 

I respect your opinions, excitement, and complaints.

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Re: The Market Thread.


chriscobweb wrote:

Instead of Gold Markert we should refer to this as

 

the "Pay for cheats and cheapening gameplay with your children's college fund" system.


Now that is just plain ridiculous! Nr 1, its not a cheat, having unlimited health etc is a cheat. And nr 2, its really judgemental attitude! Not everyone have the time to grind and grind for the best stuff etc because of different reasons. If they want to use MTs, thats up to them. And is college really so cheap so a couple of dollars in MTs enough to spend their college fund?! Im just glad I live in Norway, where we have a great education system which dont leave people bankrupt. 

 

Sorry, but this really grind my gears. 

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Shadow of war war chests

I like the idea of the war chests but my only problem with it is if you start a new game then all the money you put is into the game will be lost because i love starting the game again. The only way i can see to avoid this problem is if all the gold you buy gets carried over but that most likely won't happen unfortunately

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Re: The Market Thread.

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Can everyone please just try and remain calm, I can see people feel strongly over this but this conversation will only be beneficial if it is conducted civilly.

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so close to being a perfect sequel. I don't care what any one says. one time use microtransactions should not be in full price single player focused games. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth when i see this