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Novice
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎08-04-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

Firstly, just wanna thank Jared for the post and the reply fix, and also the Twitch mods (particularly MonolithicTruth, thanks buddy! Smiley Very Happy). I can sorta infer from the info we have but I just need to double check.

 

Is there any limitation to the amount of Mirian we can earn via playing? Anything that would stop us from being able to buy market items once we've finished all the missions etc?

 

Thanks again for the extra effort there all Smiley Very Happy

*happy dancing*

Warchief
Posts: 143
Registered: ‎10-20-2014

Re: War Chests in the future

There is nothing wrong with microtransactions as shown in today's stream. The market is an awesome surprise. I particularly like the daily/weekly/monthly themed packs.

Monolith should look into how well or poorly For Honor's system worked out. To be honest, I felt cheated as a season pass owner of that game to learn that the pass bought me nothing that couldn't be earned by playing the game. But if the Shadow of War season pass included the DLC packs that could only be bought with real money while additional tribes and such could be slowly earned, I wouldn't mind as a pass owner. The pivotal question is how many players would pay just for saved time.

Since Shadow of War is almost exclusively (if not entirely) single-player, there shouldn't be much to complain about regarding real currency shortcuts.

One more note: The rate of Mirian acquisition could be a great independent difficulty modifier. By independent, I mean make it adjustable in addition to the general difficulty settings... albeit with disabled Achievements if adjusted.
Nemesis
Posts: 544
Registered: ‎03-12-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

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Also, I wanted to talk about the price or the cost of the Gold/Mithril war chest
(Just want to know if you guys have a set price for them or not if so would like to know, would be great)

I want to get a Mithril war chest, just want to know the price for one chest since its just Orcs and some training boost in it

I don't really want to spend like 20$ just to get one Mithril chest since you know
(Its just Orcs, so if they die....) Like is it even worth it?

The reason, I'm not sure about this is (It feel like its not something we get to keep permanantly beside Talion gears)

If the price isn't too much, I think it can be overlook but I just hope maybe there's a way to make it idk how to explain it but you know
(Something to help us feel like we get to keep it)
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I don't think anyone want to be like

"**bleep** I just spend like 50$ on these War Chest full of Orcs and they all die and yeah I got bunch of Gems and Gears from em but they're all gone"

Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

You get those only from the Warchests. So you'll have to at least spend Mirian to get them.

 

Orcs will spawn with all the potential abilities that you can get from the Training Orders. Liek a fire sword or gang of archers.

Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

We don't quite yet know the $ to gold Ratio yet. We are still figuring out that value.

 

You have to buy gold first, no direct $ purchase.

 

 

Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

They are one time use. 

 

Whatever is in your Garrison will be stored inbetween playthroughs. So you can have an orc or chest that you leave in there. 

Grunt
Posts: 121
Registered: ‎03-27-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

microtransactions In a SINGLE PLAYER GAME man i thought these devs where better

tell me how much

so much did WB GAMES FORCED you guys to this or did they pay you to do this
 
Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

At the moment, we require an internet connection.

Uruk
Posts: 11
Registered: ‎08-04-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

(Just a little cobstructive criticism) Many people are upset with micro-transactions, but I see no problem with them AS OF RIGHT NOW. They are currently in GOOD STATE and I urge you not to change them. Do not fall for the temptation that Call of Duty fell for and ruined it's franchise with, please do not force us to spend actual money on things that we can't normally come across such as special weapon effects that don't occur in the game or things like that. I have no problem with using micro-transactions to boost through gameplay, but I would be quite upset if you were to add pay walls somewhere in there along the line. Smiley Sad
Thank you guys so much for making this game though, HUGE shadow of mordor fan
-B
Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

That is a fun idea!

 

It's kind of a no comment response right now though Smiley Happy

 

Warchief
Posts: 390
Registered: ‎07-26-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

@LuigiRao You dont need to use them. No need turning så negative Smiley Happy I for one will use it.

Captain
Posts: 206
Registered: ‎06-19-2015

Re: Introducing the Market

What kind of community challenges can we expect?

Member
Posts: 13
Registered: ‎10-02-2014

Re: Introducing the Market

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@MonolithJared Wouldn't the addition of microtransactions break a portion of the nemesis system and game if you can just craft your army out of legendary packs instead of searching for the special uruks to build up your army through dominations and greatly affect the difficulty by just buying top of the line gear?

Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: The Game currency, latest stream question.

When you open a warchest, the orcs will be around Talion's level.

 

For the legendary orcs, i'm not 100% sure. We may have them at higher levels. I'll have to double check that.

 

as for legendary orc "obtainment" we'll talk about that later.

Nemesis
Posts: 544
Registered: ‎03-12-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

@MonolithJared so we can use "Anything that is stored in the Garrison" or just whatever we bought from the Marketplace

Because if we can use anything such as any Orcs, Can I get a Orc I find in my playthrought that isn't from the Marketplace and put him in the Garrison and use him in my other playthroughts
Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

We don't know the $ to gold value yet. We haven't decided.

 

You could wait, however it doesn't really matter. You'll be getting higher leveled orcs playing the game anyway. So you may prefer to ignore the feature, or use it to cycle through the nemesis system.

 

You get chests and training orders only through the market.


Chests aren't reusable, but they stay with your account. So whatever you leave in your garrison can be used in another playthrough. 

 

it's okay to reask this question! Lots come in Smiley Very Happy

Member
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Registered: ‎10-02-2014

Re: Introducing the Market

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@MonolithJared Also what is the drop rate of rare/epic/legendary gear/captains? I am concerned about the balance of the occurence of these whether it is designed to push those to the microtransactions by making the game too hard/unfair for those who play naturally to get decent gear/captains during normal play to progress through the story. when microtransactions are added It is a fine line on how to balance these. whether it becomes pay to progress or not necessary. It needs to be enough to add benefit to make some want to do it but not enough to give those who don't a disadvantage.

Follower
Posts: 124
Registered: ‎03-26-2017

Re: The Game currency, latest stream question.

@rythem-beats I agree does take experience away from going into game, searching for cool orc for yourself building that bond.
Community Specialist, Monolith Productions
Posts: 134
Registered: ‎03-10-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

Happy to help

 

Mirian is plentiful. There isn't a limit. You can get lots if you play with Marauder Overlords and some other Maruader stuff Smiley Happy.

Also missions provide mirian, destroying gear provides mirian. So lots of options post endgame. 

 

A good mental benchmark, a Fortress upgrade costs about 1000 mirian, and a silver warchest costs 1000 Mirian. 

Novice
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎08-04-2017

Re: Introducing the Market

I've posted my opinions all over Twitch chat but I'm gonna weigh in here too. As these micros are only a kind of 'speed boost' and do not withold any content from the game, I don't see the problem and I'm in favour. There's nothing you can't do without the micros that you could do with, so it can't be harmful to the game in any way. However, and I can't emphasize this enough, my stance would change drastically if content becomes witheld by microtransactions (and no, I'm not talking about DLC)